{"id":454,"date":"2008-01-08T22:19:29","date_gmt":"2008-01-09T04:19:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mooreds.com\/wordpress\/archives\/000454"},"modified":"2008-01-08T22:22:17","modified_gmt":"2008-01-09T04:22:17","slug":"gwt-talk-at-the-boulder-denver-new-tech-meetup-tonight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mooreds.com\/wordpress\/archives\/454","title":{"rendered":"GWT Talk at the Boulder Denver New Tech Meetup tonight"},"content":{"rendered":"

I presented on the Google Web Toolkit at the Boulder Denver New Tech Meetup tonight (presentation and useful links<\/a>). It was a rush, as presentations always are. However, the adrenaline was compounded by two factors: the length of the presentation and the composition of the audience.<\/p>\n

To present something as large in scope as GWT in 5 minutes was difficult. Though I’d been to 3 previous meetups, I didn’t have a good feel for the technical knowledge of the audience, so I aimed to keep the presentation high level. (The audience, on this particular night, was about 50\/50 split between coders and non coders, as determined by a show of hands. However, almost everyone knew the acronym AJAX and what it meant.) This lack of knowledge compounded the difficulty, but I still feel I got across some of the benefits of GWT.<\/p>\n

I’ll be writing more about what I learned about GWT in preparing for this, but I wanted to answer 3 questions posed to me that I didn’t have off the cuff answers for tonight.<\/p>\n

1. Who is using GWT?<\/p>\n

I looked and couldn’t find a good list. This list<\/a> is the best I could do, along with this GWT Groups post<\/a>. I find it rather astonishing that there’s not a better list out there, as the above list was missing some big ones (Timepedia’s Chronoscope<\/a>, the Lombardi Blueprint system<\/a>) as well as my own client: Colorado HomeFinder<\/a>.<\/p>\n

2. How much time does the compilation process add?<\/p>\n

I guessed on this tonight but guessed too high. I said it was on the order of 30 seconds to a minute. On my laptop (2 cpu\/2 ghz\/2 gb of ram box) GWT compilation takes ~7 seconds to build incrementally (from ant, which appears to add ~2 seconds to all of these numbers) and ~21 seconds to build after all classes and artifacts have been deleted. This is for 7400 lines of code.<\/p>\n

3. How does GWT compare to other frameworks like Dojo and YUI?<\/p>\n

I punted on this one when perhaps I should not have. From what I can tell, GWT attacks adding dynamic behavior to web pages in a fundamentally different way. Dojo and YUI (from what I know of them) are about adding behavior to existing widgets on a page. GWT is about adding objects to a page, which may or may not be attached to existing widgets. I’ll not say more, as I don’t have the experience with other toolkits to speak authoritatively.<\/p>\n

Also, here’s an AJAX toolkit comparison<\/a> that I found.
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